korofel: (Default)
Connie Q ([personal profile] korofel) wrote in [community profile] bakerstreetmods2017-10-20 09:27 pm

Red Alert: Report your Issues to your Superior Officer



Please let us know if there are any issues of spam, harassment, or general asshattery going on at [community profile] bakerstreet.

Provide evidence if you're speaking against another player. This is not a venue for anonymous bashing just for the fun of it. Such comments will be deleted.

Anon is on, IP logging is on, and comments can be screened on request.


Previous reporting posts can be found here and here.
thelongcon: (Default)

[personal profile] thelongcon 2018-05-24 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Crack and unconventional carries really different tones to me, so I'm also going to follow precedent and leave those two up.

https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

(Anonymous) 2018-05-25 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
i'm beginning to wonder if this isn't intentional, as i've seen this meme posted a million times without font issues.
1800: (janeausten)

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

[personal profile] 1800 2018-05-25 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I will send them a PM. If they don't reply nor change the font, their username will be banned.
1800: (janeausten)

[personal profile] 1800 2018-05-25 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry I didn't get to this sooner. It looks like we need to set some new rules.
thelongcon: (Default)

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

[personal profile] thelongcon 2018-05-25 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Also not sure if this is related to how the memes are coded ie. the < font color html > or the ( ) code, but for the latter:

color: rgb(17, 17, 17) in the code shows up as black, no matter what edits are made in the rich text editor.

Removing the color code so it reads color: rgb() has fixed it.

Edited 2018-05-25 22:46 (UTC)

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

(Anonymous) 2018-05-25 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4993288.html

another one that i just sent a message to, so i'd say give it a few hours for a reply or edit, but it's getting more frequent imo. my main characters all have dark layouts and i've never noticed it this badly before.
thelongcon: (Default)

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

[personal profile] thelongcon 2018-05-25 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I am using the gradation display settings for dreamwidth (black background, white text and the meme is showing up that way)

Which theme(s) are you using so I can fiddle to see what would be the best way to adjust?

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
i read on my reading pages, which means that it's in my layout style which mostly have black or very dark grey backgrounds and white or super pale grey font. it's when any meme sets a font color at all. there's no reason for a font color to be set when most layouts on dw have a default setting that adapts it to whatever the layout font is. so if they don't put in a color or leave it as a :default, then it will show up as the layout's background, which is whatever contrasts with it. if it's set as black or very dark grey without a contrasting background, then if you have a layout with dark grey/black, you have to highlight the meme or open it in a separate page (as i have my page layout set to the site skin, which is purple display and no problems there).

my real problem comes from memes that previous had no problems on my layouts, like the abo and the slow dance meme, both posted multiple times (even as recently as last month for the abo), and no font issues there. if you go to read it on the bakerstreet layout or preview it, it won't show up because preview posts it in the bs layout and the bs layout has a white background with dark font. the meme i pointed out a while ago with a yellow background had no actual font set, so when it was on my dark layout with white font, it became unreadable, but would have looked fine with black font of the preview.

at this point, i just don't even know what to suggest, tbh. it's been getting way more frequent because i feel people are just c/ping and slamming meme on top of meme and they obviously don't have the ability to just scan through the coding to see if there's even a font color set at all or how to fix it because it likely doesn't affect them and they don't see it as an issue. i know i'm not the only person who prefers dark layouts with lighter font. it's less searing on my eyes and i get less tracers with less white to glare back at me. i know you guys are putting it in the meme weekly roundup posts, but i think people are just doing what people do because haha, whatever, right?

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
just a note: the second meme poster (extreme kink) edited it.

so for the most part, most of the posters i've messaged have edited it, but there's a few who don't reply and don't edit (like the first one in this thread) and i don't know if it's because it's me on a sock messaging them or they just don't care.
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Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

[personal profile] thelongcon 2018-05-26 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
This is probably some people using socks and never checking the inboxes because of the number of notifs that they end up getting.

As for the poster in this thread, they did fix the prompts. It's the main blurb that got missed.

Re: https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/4990312.html

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
which is, funnily enough, the part that needs to be visible, since that's what anyone looking on their layout will see as they scroll by.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-29 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
hey guys, can you start banning people who delete their own memes when it's not because of you? i've gotten some play on several that weren't against rules or really close to other ones that the op deleted obviously just because it wasn't getting the traction they wanted.

also could you possibly ban tlh off-comm for a bit? i have no problem with it but like one out of every two ends up deleted from tlh but not bakerstreet (and then sometimes they will delete both) and again it seems like it's because they didn't get the replies they wanted even if there are threads going on it and it's not a small post.

it's pretty frustrating. i recently tagged out and only even found out that a post was deleted because the other player was chill enough and interested enough that they pmed me to let it know it was deleted!

(Anonymous) 2018-05-30 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Just a heads up I'm deleting top levels w/out starters here https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/5001971.html

The warning has been there since the get-go, in case anyone gets mad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1800: (janeausten)

[personal profile] 1800 2018-05-30 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
We could ban them, but obviously we'd need to know who they are and that can be tricky if we haven't even seen the meme before it got deleted. I don't want people to start naming others without proof.

The first step would be for you to give us a link to a deleted meme. That you should be able to get from your notifs, right? But then how to let us know who posted that meme? Do you have any ideas other than taking a screencap of every meme you rp in?

I'll make a mod post about TLH memes.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-04 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/5013283.html - someone not reading that tlh posts were temp banned and posting a crosslink to tlh.

i'd also like to suggest that maybe there's a way to get people to read the first page of the comm before posting a meme. a lot of memes have too many similar themes to what's already up and could wait a day or three before being posted.

a werewolf au meme going up and then a big bad wolf meme going up two or three days later. unconventional couples meme and then an opposites attract or fish out of water meme. you guys aren't babysitters, but it's starting to feel more and more like some people are doing things intentionally to push a boundary and it's getting annoying. it's dragging the comm down so that people just aren't posting because why would anyone want to play the same meme three times in a week?
1800: (janeausten)

[personal profile] 1800 2018-06-04 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, it seems that my choice of words wasn't clear enough and not only you but my co-mod misunderstood me because of it.

I didn't mean to ban cross-posting right away. I was trying to say there's a warning first and that I'm watching more closely who posts links to TLH now.

I understand the frustration some of you have over deleted TLH memes, but it really should not be directed to us. What happens in TLH is beyond our power. Just because we host links to those memes doesn't make us responsible for them. We can ban those who constantly delete memes but we won't make banning an automatic action because of one offence.

And to be honest, it is somewhat ironic that people are now annoyed of deleted memes in TLH, when we are so often asked to delete memes here without any concern of those who would lose their threads in the process. Why are people complaining if someone takes down a meme that didn't attract enough replies while at the same time unpopular memes shouldn't have the right to exist in Bakerstreet?

(Anonymous) 2018-06-05 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
it's not about "unpopular", it's about "there's already a post for this concept and there's no reason for this one to go up right now except that the poster wants THEIRS to get all the attention, which it will for twelve hours until yet another knockoff goes up"

most requests are not "ban this meme it sucks", they're "we JUST did this, couldn't they wait a few days?"

dupe memes take up space on the front page and dilute their own audience. they each typically get less activity than when there's room to breathe between them, because a) even if people are interested in playing that concept right now, they may or may not feel like bothering to post top levels in both, and b) the people who actually RESPOND to top levels may or may not feel like bothering to comb through two functionally identical posts, especially once they've got a thread started in one of them.

meanwhile memes that offer fresh ideas get buried after twelve hours under the never-ending stream of daily "secret forbidden taboo romance" in a different hat. and that discourages people. which means that ALL memes including the secret forbidden taboo romance ones get less traction. which means that people unthinkingly throw up YET MORE memes in the hopes that their shiny new post will be the one to break the streak. rinse and repeat.

nobody's asking you to be the 24/7 meme police. they're just asking you to keep the deadwood trimmed so that everybody can have more fun.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-05 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
sa with a few more points:

- it's not a coincidence that the memes you have limited and scheduled always get a reasonable amount of traffic. tfln hits captcha in part because people aren't constantly inundated with differently themed or styled tfln posts, so when it comes around, they actually want it.

- sure, anybody can post, but that becomes more of a weakness and less of a strength when it's much easier to slam up a copy-paste than it is to come up with something actually interesting.

- also some people are so determined to get their niche kink fix that they can't take a hint. I've posted a certain meme twice, at reasonable intervals, and it's gotten crickets. I'll probably post it once more in future, and if it doesn't take off I'll know that it's just not something people want. there's no point cluttering up the comm with memes that you KNOW nobody's going to tag.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-05 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/5015895.html grouchy loves cheery (basically opposites attract theme)

2 or 3 posts down is a crack pairing meme already, which is essentially the same thing

can we please delete grouchy/cheery?

(Anonymous) 2018-06-05 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
it's not the same thing at all wtf

crack pairings are pairings that are ooc or don't make sense
1800: (janeausten)

[personal profile] 1800 2018-06-05 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It is about popularity. I very much doubt you or others were asking certains memes to be deleted if they got thousands of comments each week. If all memes reached captcha you probably wouldn't worry about them being buried under other memes, either.

People play in memes they want to play in. Flakes won't stop being flakes if you don't give them a 'new and shiny' meme to replace an old one. They will just find another excuse to stop tagging when they are bored.

We could technically have a test week (or a month) of restricted posting but can you guarantee it will turn things for the better? Would you, for instance, promise to post memes that you feel are more interesting and varied?

(Anonymous) 2018-06-06 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
oh my god you're not going to hurt the meme's feelings. the meme isn't going to cry itself to sleep because it was asked to leave the cool kids' party.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want memes to be deleted. I want memes for which there's no demand to not be posted all the damn time

(Anonymous) 2018-06-06 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/5010255.html - rate that ass june 2

https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/5018854.html - same meme, june 6. not even a week. rule break.

https://bakerstreet.dreamwidth.org/5017638.html

(Anonymous) 2018-06-06 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
messaged them about setting the font to default. no reply, no fix on the meme.